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lutity wrong. how do you screw screw up the -- there there was in "the miami herald" a piece by carol bernstein and bob woodward. maybe a young copy editor never heard of them. that's it for this edition of "reliable sources." if you miss a program, you can go to i tunes on mondays and download the podcast. i'm howard kurtz. state of the union with candy crowley begins right now. the hope of last year's arab spring turns this year to an uncertain arab summer. you are looking at live pictures in tahrir square in cairo. where thousands are celebrating the election of mohamed morsi. i'm candy crowley in washington. we want to welcome viewers from cnn international to "state of the union."
the announcement came about 90 minutes ago, defeating ahmed shafiq. christian amanpour is the global affairs anchor, also with her is correspondent ben wedeman. let's go back to the moment this was announced by effectively the elections commission in cairo. tell me, ben, wareaction imdiate and joyous? >> reporter: it was incredible. we really heard a rouge roar coming uprom the crowd. the only time i've heard a louder roar was 6:00 p.m. last year when hosni mubarak's resignation was announced. what we saw -- it's a very hot, bright day in cairo. i'd say tahrir square was about a third full. within about 20 minutes, it just filled up and people continue to
fill up in the square coming from all the parts of cairo. as the temperatures become to become a little more mild, i think we're going to hear more fireworks, more car sirens and see more and more people coming out here because this is truly a historic day for egypt where egyptians finally see those who were on the other side of the political equation coming into power. candy? >> christiane, there's so much work to be done. it may not be sp e,ut certainly not the last step. what is the next question now in egypt that has to be dealt with? >> reporter: you're absolutely right. this is a transformative moment. it is the first ever islamist head of state in the arab world. as egypt goes, the rest of the arab world goes. what is going to happen we don know because the military is in control of this country still and the elected president has
very limited powers at the moment. we're not sure what's going to happen when they get down to the nitty-gritty of organizing how to actually write a constitution. you've had a presidential election with no constitution. you h very ill-defined powers for thected president and very definite powers for the unelected ruling military authorities that still maintain power including legislative power since they have dissolved before this run-off in parliament here, which was the first free and fair election that muslim brotherhood dominated along with other islamists. the other thing we don't know is how islamic is this islamist regime going to be? many people in the united states, egypt and around the world are concerned about what does it mean to have an islamist in po the musl brotherhood, six decades as odds with the military rulers here in egypt and all around this part of the world. people want to know what does this mean for o life? to be very frank, these
questiha all been answered by any stretch of the imagination. as you know, 48% of the egyptian people actually voted for shafik who represented the old regime. >> let me ask you both, first to ben, morsi was educatedn the u.s. while he obvious sli a member of the muim brotherhood, does that bode well for u.s.-egyptian relationships ben? >> certainly what we've seen over the last six or seven years is the united states thrghairo reached out to the muslim brotherhood. in 2005 the muslim brotherhood won 20% of the seats in parliament, its highest everyone tillhat pot of representation. beginning back then, the u.s. was sending out feelers and there has been a dialogue.
certainly since the overthrow of hosni mubarak, almost every delegation, congressional, from the government, has met with representatives of the muslim brotherhood with mohamed morsi and others. and there has been an attempt by the muslim brotherhood to reassure the united states that it's not about to dump the camp david peace accords with israel, that it wants to work with the united states and it's not going to sort of take egypt on some sort of bold, new, hardne islamist course. they do want to do business with the united states. >> and on that very important point, candy, i interviewed mohamed morsi about the u.s. and israel. he was categoric about how they wanted relations based on mutual interest and how they would respect the camp david accords. >> christiane amanpour and ben
wedeman, thank you so much. joining us on the phone is california republican congressman david drier. here on the set, cnn foreign affairs correspondent jill doher doherty. congressman, first to you, let me ask the same question which is what can we now expect? what's the next step in the u.s. for this? >> candy, let me first say that i think it is worth noting that the last presidential election in egypt saw hosni mubarak get 90% of the vote. morsi got 52%. what it means is for the first time in 7,000 years the people of egypt have been able to play a role in determining their future. what it means for the future, i hope very much that ben's statement there about this notion of building a coalition that is not going to be anti-west. as christian said, recognition of the camp david peace accords will proceed. there are a number of things that need to happen now. we need to see the constituent
assembly proceed with the constitution. obviously many of us believe a constion should have been in place before allhese elections were being held. they're going to have to hold parliamentary elections again because of the decision that was made a week and a half ago, t dissolve the parliant. i think also from the meetings i have -- and ben is right -- i've met with mr. al had der who was going to be the muslim brotherhood candidate for the freedom and justice party. he has actually indicated to me recognition of the camp david peace accords, a desire to assure minority rights including women's rights. these things have been said and obviously we need to make sure we encourage that as much as possible and ilo forward to doing that. th need to focus on the econoo.om t that's the other thing, candy, that's very importan i've introduced a u.s.-egypt free trade agreement. they've lost 2 million jobs since february of last year. by virtue of that, they really
need to get the economy growing and get people back to work. >> let me get to jill. we've been giving the egyptian military, because they've been in charge, about a billion a year. >> 1.3. >> they've done this power grab. how does the u.s. walk this line? they want to nurture democracy but don't want to encourage the military? it still remains pretty much in arge. >> exactly. what they have to do, what they are doing is they will look at the next steps towards the democratic process. if the egyptian from the president, still remains the military. will they move forward on these democratic steps? if they do, then the u.s. continues that money, and as the congressman said, the critical thing isthe economy becau right now those people on the square need jobs. if they don't get them from morsi or the military leaders, then we could be back to the
same situation. it is critical to gethat economy moving again. >> our cnn foreign affairs correspondent jill doherty. congressman david dreier on the phone. thank you for your expertise. cnn continuing to keep up on the developments in egypt. up next, mitt romney on the economy. campaign adviser ed gillispie is here next. with the spark cash card from capital one,
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joining me is ed gillispie. ed, thanks for letting us squeeze you in. the world never waits for us. >> thanks for squeezing me in. >> i want to first get your response to a "washington post" story that said while your candidate was at bain capital that bain invested in several firms that specialized in exporting american jobs to low salary companies, india, china, an old story. as i understand it it's the folks you get that aren't in the united states that answer customer service questions, et cetera. how does that sell in the heartland so hit by the loss of manufacturing jobs and lots of
blue collar jobs. >> candy, this was incredibly shoddy journalism. this was a breathless headline over a baseless story. i would encourage you to have the reporter on your show and ask him to demonstrate one of the companies cited in that article that moved american jobs overseas while mitt romney was at bain capital, that bain capital invested in. i don't think you'll find he can cite in. >> he did not invest. >> bain did not invest in any company that shipped jobs overseas. >> any company in these articles, we went back and reviewed and could not find any. the reporter inject dollar himself into the campaign and he's subject to fact checking. i would love to encourage cnn to ask him to produce evidence of a single jock, of a company cited in that story that mitt romney was with a company that moved jobs overseas. i don't think i'll find in
>> since i don't have him here, and i do have you here, what i am getting at is while he was head of bain and forget the story, and while he was head of bain, did bain invest in and advise companies that did ship american jobs overseas and you are saying that no company at bain did that while he was there? >> i am not aware, but what happened in the story as near i can tell is that the reporter confused the notion of outsourcing, and american companies outsourced domestically, and for example the obama for america campaign out sources from its own campaign to telemarketing companies. >> yes, to omaha or whatever. >> and cnn may outsource for any projects and the reporter confused outsourcing which happens all of the times when you don't do all of the service in-house, you do that to moving it offshore, and there were companies that bain invested in did engage in outsourcing, and
lots of companies do, because it is an economic model that makes sense. >> your statement today is those companies while he was head of bain, did not outsource jobs? >> in "the washington post" article -- >> and you are saying specifical- >> well, candy, that is the ones we checked because that is t story. have the "washington post" columnist on and see if they can demonstrate to you or the american voters the validity of the headline on that story, because like i say it was a brthless headline, but a baseless sto. >> and let me ask you about another story in "the new york times," because of the contracts that bain put out there and got signed from various companies that they invested in, that even when the companies went down workers were laid off and lost their pensions, et cetera, et cetera, and bain always made a hefty profit. again, there is nothing illegal about that. bain was there to make a profit for its investors. but it is a hard sell to what is
right now the core of romney support, isn't it? which is that the working class voter who has seen so many of the jobs go away? >> well, let me just say that in terms of bain, bain put out a statement that said that this that story, they confused fees for profits, and that they didn't make a profit in those instances, but i refer that to bain. but the fact is that when mitt romney was involved with bain capital, it was very successful in generating jobs. you look at companies like staples and others -- >> well, there is no records, and we are kind of arguing -- >> look at staples. there are a lot of jobs when you walk into a staples. >> well, a larger picture we don't have -- >> and let me tell you about the larger picture we with have since president obama took office, 500,000 fewer americans are working today. 23 million americans are either out of work entirely or underemployed and not working full time, but part time instead of full time and left the workforce entirely as a result
of his policies. we just saw last month we've had the lowest postings of new jobs available by american companies in five months. we've had 40 months of 8% unemployment oer. and we have seen a decline of family income by $4,300 and that is the big picture, candy, and that is what americans are focused on going into november. >> let me ask you a couple of things because i had david plouffe on last week, and i asked him whas the plan to get people employed, and so when it comes to immigration and reform, we know he wants to do it in a civid bipaisan way to have immigration reform include something like what the president did by executive directive, and what we don't know, is a, will he keep the directive in place while he works out immigration in a hoe lis ti manner? >> well, first of all, we saw
what the president did this week was to take a shower or thunderstorm gain -- >> and since time is short, i need to know about mitt romney. >> every executive action that president obama has taken will be subject to review. in the case of this case, it is subject to review whether it is legal, and so there is legitimate questions about the legality of it, and everyone he takes here on forward is subject to review and repeal. >> we know subject to review, but isn't it important for not just the kids involved or the young 20-somethings who say, wow, now if i meet certain criteria, i can get my working papers and come january 20th or whenever the inauguration is, if mitt romney is president, they could lose it? shouldn't there be some certainty as to immigration or what he wants to cut or sustained tax cuts, and there are no specifics here that we can look at and voters can look at and say, oh, okay, here is what he wants to do, and i support that, and immigration is one of those. it is a simple question, would
he keep that in place until he gets to a broader reform. >> well, two questions. first, governor romney's planb to grow jobs and bring jobs back is something we have been trying to lay out for weeks now. we've had a series of adds called "day one." we'd approve the keys pipeline or repeal obama care, get tough with china and stop them from manipulating currency. let me go back to the other question. and so now between n and november, it is clear that the oval office is an extension of the chicago campaign headquarters, and they will make a lot of political moves and there are a lot of target dem graphs that the president will try to appeal to do with executive actions. and the if a president romney is elected, he will. >> i have to run, but you can't tell me whether he will leave it in place? >> they are subject to review and repeal. >> ed, i am sorry so short, and as you know the world is going crazy. >> i understd coletely.
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muslim brotherhood candidate mohamed morsi has been declared the winner of egypt's presidential election. the announcement was met with massive cheers by,000 sanz of his supporters who gathered in tahrir square. morsi defeated ahmed shafiq. turkey's foreign minister says syria gave no warning before shooting down a turkish military jet that strayed into syrian territory. turkey is accusing syria of spreading disinformation about the friday incident and says the plane was unarmed and not sending hostile signals. turkish boats and helicopters are searching for the plane's two-man crew inside syrian waters. tropical storm debbie is on a bath for the u.s. gulf coast. the storm is packing winds of 60 miles per hour. louisiana's plaquemines perish is preparing for a state of emergency. days after being sworn in to
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it sustainable for the romney campaign to continue to say that we are not going to tell you whether or not we would undo the president's directive dealing with allowing young immigrants who came here under thage of 16 to stay? >> well, what the governor has said is that he wants, and this is a commitment he is making. he wants to do something permanent, long-term, and not a patchwork -- >> and so does the president. >> but he has not been able to. >> exactly. >> and he has not done that. >> but the question is about the kids. >> and to tell, congress, don't worry about it. we are going to just continue it is just another way of saying, you don't have to act. you can continue to avoid facing up to this issue the way that you have avoided it for the last ten years. >> congressman gutierrez, let me bring you in on this particular discussion, and ask you obviously the democrats are going after the mitt romney for
not saying what he would do about this particular group of paperless immigrants who have me in here. do you think that is going to hurt mitt romney simply because mitt romney at this point is polling in the 24, 25% among the latino voters? >> well, let me just first of all say that the reason mitt romney is in the position he's in with latino voters is that during the primary campaign mitt romney had a lot to say and he was very specific about what he felt about immigration. first of all, he hired the architect of the discriminatory arizona law to advise him on immigration, and he said self-deport. he said he would veto the dream act if he were president of the united states. moreover, he talked about self-deportation, but he had a very extreme position when it came to immigration, and candy, quite honestly, he just -- the latino community is not going to suffer from amnesia and forget
about the positions, because he was clear and articulate in the primary. >> congressman, let me point out that this president said that he would get comprehensive reform in the first year, and that he would propose it, and he has not delivered. you heard mitt romney down at the organization for latino elected and appointed officials here in the u.s., and mitt romney pointed out that latino unemployment is much higher than the overall average. he pointed out the number of latinos who have dropped into poverty since this p president became president, so what is the appeal here given those circumstances? what is the appeal of the latino community? >> sure. i think that going back to mr. gillespie, a senior adviser just on the program said that if romney were president of the united states, he'd have to review and repeal and reconsider, and even repeal. so we simply ask -- >> i'm not sure he said repeal, but review.
>> he did. i was listening very, very carefully, candy. he said that those actions would be under review and repeal. >> and so given that, we should have an answer on the basic question that we have before us. we have over 1 million young people in the united states of america since the president made the announcement, two-thirds of the american public have said it is a great idea, and latinos are cheering throughout the country, there are positive steps being taken to defend the immigrant community, and undocumented immigrant community and we are starting with the children. at least mr. romney could say, look,ly not deport those young people if i am elected the president of the united states, and it is a fair question and one that should be answered before the election. >> mr. secretary, given the statistics that mitt romney rattled off at the convention, is it fair to say that latinos oratino voters are repelled by what the congressmanust referred to, that kind of harsh tone of the republican party
at seems unwelcoming to latino voters and those who are here with papers and that are american citizens, and those who are not? >> well, there's no doubt that there have been members of the party who have mentioned things, stated things that were insulting to hispanics. i don't think that president obama wants to have a contest as to who said what, because what he promised the latino community -- he promised everything. immigration reform in the first 100 days jobs. education. we have 2 million more hispanics in poverty since he took office. unemployment went from 8% to 11%. hispanic schools, the schools they go to have not come up -- >> i think unemployment has actually dropped in the latino community to 11. >> well, it is higher, but a lot
higher that on the national average. >> yes. >> he has not delivered. they have been playing with latinos, and it hurts me to see it. this patchwork of the dream act, and why didn't they do this two years ago and how many people have they deported since? >> let me put that question actually to the congressman, because i did have that down for you. can you explain to me why the dream act which dealt with these young illegal immigrants went down a year ago. why did it take the president until five months before the election to make this move? >> first of all, candy, it was november 2010 and i was there leading the figh 216-208. and 208 against the dream act. >> he lost it -- >> and if i could. we passed the dream act in the house ofepresentatives, and we went to the senate, candy, and there were 55 senators willing to overcome the ability to move
forward with the action there on cloture. 51 democrats and 4 republican, and there were republicans working with then secretary of commerce gutierrez when he came to the congress under the bush administration who would not vote for it. that is the simple fact they obstructed the process to getting the dream act done. and last year in august of last year, the president issued an executive order to look at how it was to use prosecutorial discretion, and we demanded and asked that he do more and he did that -- and look -- >> well -- >> i cannot ask and demand of a president that he do more and when he does it not stand by to congratulate him. >> my dear friend luis gutierrez, and whom i admire and know you have done a lot for this cause. november 2010 is exactly what the pattern has been. before an election, let's promise something to the hispanics, and that bill had
things in there that could not get bipartisan support, and republicans said don't ram that bill now. we are in the middle of an election, and you did it anyway knowing that it would not pass, but it didn't matter, because you made the promise and you got the hispanic vote, and that has been the pattern. this administration has played with hispanics. >> i'm afraid i'm going to have to stop you there, congressman because of other things going down. i'll have to cut it off here. congressman luis gutierrez and former secretary carlos gutierr gutierrez. they are not related and they don't agree as you can see. victory for the muslim brotherhood in egypt when we come back. olaf's pizza palace gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! put it on my spark card! [ high-pitched ] nice doin' business with you! [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve the most rewards!
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mosphere. shafik supporters also have come out to commiserate. there's no sign of that. it's one of unbridled triumph and jubilation. that now is a live shot of tahrir square. we earlier heard from our correspondent dan rivers now the the very happy streets of cairo where muslim brotherhood supporters are celebrating the election of their candidate mohamed morsi as the country's next president. our international correspondent dan rivers joins us from cairo. dan, tell us what you can about the atmosphere. >> reporter: pictures speak a thousand words. sir, you're here, you speak english. how do you feel? >> we are all very happy because all people want is to remove this regime. this regime isn't here. we are happy because lots of
people been at that place and we are very happy [ inaudible ]. reporter: to show you where we are, we're actually on a bridge in the middle of the river nile here. you can seeit hopefully, blocked with traffic. kids, parents. i'm difficult to walk along so i don't know how my cameraman is doing. this gives you a pretty good indication of what it's like. >> so essentially we actually don't even need dan rivers to tell us about the reaction on the street as you can see. as he once called it, unbridled celebration there at the election of a new president, lots of high hope but also lots and lots of work to be done. joining us on the phone is
former u.s. ambassador to egypt, edward walker. mr. amador, thanksfor joining us. you can't rain on that parade today, that's for sure. but what comes next? what's the most important thing that happens next? >> one thing he's got to do, morsi's got to do is he'sgot to establish his credentials with the people that he lost to, that he lost in the election. thisas aery clos election. it doesn't show a unified country. it shows a country that's basically divided in two. he might be able to accomplish that, but he'll have to do it with the oversight of the military who still retains the overall authority and power. this result was great for the military. you've got to compliment them on their ability to make things turn out well for them. just imagine what it would have been like, there would be
rioting in the streets, teargas out there, tanks in the square. they didn't want that. they found a way to 'em mass late the brotherhood before th ever took over. i think they're still very much in command, and i think they will support the -- continue to support the treaty with israel. i think they will continue to try to resolve the outstanding issues with the united states. it's not at all a bad perspective from their point of view. and it may not be so bad for us either. >> mr. ambassador, can you tell us what you know about mr. morsi. we know he was educated here. would you call him u.s. friendly or u.s. skeptical. >> two of his children are u.s. citizens. so he's certainly got some ties. i don't think he's a great
supporter, fan of the united states. he came out of the background really in this when the primary brotherhood candidate was disallowed. he's not very charismatic. he is, however, a true believer in the brotherhood's program. and if you go to the program, you can see it has some good points and some bad points. some of the bad points is it's a top-down autocratic leadership. once a decision is made, everyone is supposed to salute and pay attention to it. it has some anti democratic components to it. we haven't seen the last of this particular power play. >> ambassador edward walker, thank you so much for your insights. we'll have more of this on the egyptian election results when we come back. see life in the best light. [music] transitions® lenses automatically filter just the right amount of light. so you see everything the way it's meant to be seen. experience life well lit,
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you're looking at a couple of live pictures here. top left, that is tahrir square from the ground. bottom right, that is tar rear square with a more aerial view. absolutely crowded and jubilant. joining us is connecticut democratic senator richard blumenthal. back here onset, cnn foreign affairs correspondent jill doherty. senator blumenthal, what does the u.s. do now? there's been this giant power grab we've been talking about by the egyptian military. yet we're still giving them north of a billion dollars every year. is that money safe? >> keeping it in context, let's remember that this election marks progress on the path
toward democracy, and in the midst of the polarization which hopefully will ease and the confusion which you can see on your screen, what we really need to do is pay attention to what this new president as well as the military council, what they do, not only what they say. in three critical areas. number one, are they going to undertake real economic reform and restore the economy which is ally on the brink of collapse. number two, are they going to honor their peace agreements particularly with israel, the camp david accord? number three, will the brotherhood continue to reach out and continue to work with the more secular advocates of democracy? let's not jump to conclusions either as to cutting off or doing something else as to the aid. let's watch what they do, whether they continue to be stable and solid partners in keeping peace in the middle east. >> you were there not that long ago. did you get the sense that the
military will easily give up its por which has only been consolidated over the past months? >> by no means easily if at all will the military relent or relinquish its power. remember, its power is not only a military arms power, but also an economic power. ey virtually control the economy, the instruments and tools of manufacturing such as it is and all aspects of the economic lifeblood. so not easily at all, which is why the united states can continue to be a constructive force. the obama administration through secretary clinton has sought to do that ably and i think will continue to do despite really excruciatingly difficult challenges we face. >> senator richard blumenthal, democrat from connecticut. thank you for your insights. >> thank you. >> jill, let me turn to you. it sounds like the senator is saying we need to wait and see how this plays out before making
any huge steps one way or the other in terms of policy. >> absolutely. i think the administration breathes a sigh of relief. there are no riots on the street. people are happy. they feel democracy is moving forward. in terms of what the u.s. does concretely with the money, the $1.3 billion it gives the military, in terms of anything else, that it goes step by step encouraging, but also saying we want to see what your next concrete move will be. after all, the military still controls things. >> this was the best they could hope for out of today, correct? this is what the u.s. wanted. >> i think that's definitely true. if it had been former prime minister shafik, he would have been very much back in the military controlling everything, including the presidency. that would have been a bad scene and could have led to chaos on the streets. right now you have a symbol of democracy, the people have spoken. he is there.
as has been pointed out, it's a very divided country with an economic basket case. right now they have to get the economy back on track and make sure that those -- the political reforms continue or at least get off the ground. >> is there leverage that the u.s. has here? there is that billion dollars, or are we waiting and seeing. is that the mode, diplomacy and everything else is in right now? >> the u.s. works very closely with the military, has for a long time. the money is an issue. but essentially, you know, in so many of these countries, the arab spring countries, the united states ends up not having ultimately a lot of influence. it can hope, it can encourage, it can cajole and sometimes scold, but ultimately it's not going to find what's going on on the streets. >> the superpower has its limitations. thank you, jill doherty, for all your help this morning. i appreciate it. up next, when politics is all in the family.
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and finally, they are brought in by their parents, often given no choice in the matter. they arrive in a world where the nuance language is foreign. and if they make a mistake, people are ready to pounce. we are talking, of course, about the children of presidential candidates. >> i didn't want him to do it. i tried to convince him not to. i think there were a few of us that tried that. >> yes, there they were, reluctant. matt with brothers tagg, ben and josh. >> some people call us boys,
whatever. >> the romney ensemble was lighthearted and devoid of policy and controversy or as any campaign would describe that, just perfect. ditto the huntsman ladies, add difficult, libby and mary ann, the prodigy of jon huntsman. in this youtube video they sat tir rise what was put together by a herman cain video. >> our dad has the experience and track record to revive the economy and create jobs. even if we didn't believe that, we'd still have to be here. >> that may be more truth than satire. some kids don't take to the limelight. when was the last time you saw amy carter. when chelsea clinton showed up on her moth ears campaign, the world went out she is not available to reporters. chelsea is now, of course, a reporter. some offspring thrive, john mccain's daughter megan was out there and talkative during the '08 election cycle and she still
is. >> i just visited him in d.c., and it was like we don't need to get dinner because i went grocery shopping. in his fridge was a bucket of fried chicken, wonder bread and pudding pops. he was like a 5-year-old. >> the obama girls, and they are girls, are too young for solo campaigning or late night tv, but there has been no public misbehaving much less speaking. >> vote for daddy! >> of course, they were bribed. >> sasha and malia, i love you both more than you can imagine and you have earned the new puppy that's coming with us to the white house: we're not sure what mitt romney has promised his boys if they behave and he wins. but all the romney men are married with children, so a puppy may not be the best idea